\end{center}
Here you can log the problem into the MantisBT bugtracker, or use the forum Q\&A for help from other users, or email the
-problem using the address:{\small \href{mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org}{cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org}} It is usually more
+problem to the Mailing List using the address:{\small \href{mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org}{cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org}}. It is usually more
helpful if instead of starting \CGG{} from its application icon, start from a window so that if there are error
messages related to the problem, they can be captured from the screen and emailed or logged. The command to run
from a window is: \texttt{<directory\_path of where you installed cinelerra>/bin/cin} -- for example if
-installed in \texttt{/mnt0/build5/cinelerra-5.1}, you would execute the following command to start the program:\\
-\texttt{/mnt0/build5/cinelerra-5.1/bin/cin} \\
+installed in \texttt{/mnt0/build5/cinelerra-5.1}, you would execute the following command to start the program:
+\newline \hspace*{1cm} \texttt{/mnt0/build5/cinelerra-5.1/bin/cin} \\
The problem you are experiencing may be as simple as an error due to the settings in your \texttt{\$HOME/.bcast5} subdirectory so you may want to first rename your current \texttt{.bcast5} in order to start with default settings. By renaming the directory instead of deleting it, you will be able to put it back and not lose all of your preferences.
-However, there are some easy things to do to fix errors that may have resulted from media problems,
+A note about using the Mailing List {\small \href{mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org}{cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org}}
+is that to avoid receiving spam, it will require you to subscribe. But it is also easy to unsubscribe once you have
+the information you need. The Mailing List, although routinely used by developers or contributors to discuss
+changes, can provide more technical answers in some cases and the email goes directly to individuals who are quite
+likely sitting at their computers depending on the timezone.
+
+There are some easy things to do to fix errors that may have resulted from media problems,
computer problems, or operational missteps so you can proceed without having to wait for help. These
are outlined in \ref{cha:when_things_go_wrong} - be sure to read down through
\textit{Common Problems} where some exact error messages are mentioned along with their cause or solution. Other
\begin{enumerate}
\item If you can not register your username in the website's Forum, it could be
-because the protection measures against spammers also is in effect with real users, so sometimes the website blocks the registration for the forum. This often affects email addresses of well-known email providers. Send email to the mailing list (({\small \url{https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin}}) so that you can be added to the forum manually as long as
+because the protection measures against spammers also is in effect with real users, so sometimes the website blocks the registration for the forum. This often affects email addresses of well-known email providers. Send email to the mailing list which requires you to subscribe (({\small \url{https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin}}) so that you can be added to the forum manually as long as
you confirm that you agree with the terms of use of this website and the forum.
\item In the website's Forum, use of unacceptable characters or strings can result in the error
message "A potentially unsafe operation has been detected in your request to this site". You lose what
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